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Issues with default Ribbon and Backstage options

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I am trying to hide some of the Backstage options (ie.: FILE items) and am running into the following issue:
To use the BACKSTAGE option the ribbon MUST be selected as the default ribbon for the database, otherwise the changes will not be applied. However, when a default ribbon is selected I'm finding that my other custom ribbons (on forms, etc.) are not working. This means I cannot use the BACKSTAGE options to remove/hide any FILE options in conjunction with other custom ribbons. Has anybody else run into this problem?
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